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 I have no problem with changing the judge to Richard, I only volunteered 
to get the process going.

Mike 4309

From:   Ken Kittlitz <>
Date:   24/02/2017 10:09
Subject:        Re: fx-propose: Proposal: 'TruImp'
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I can change the judge in the DB if you're OK with it, Sam.

Regarding the mailing list issues -- the server OS version (elderly 
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Sam Fentress <> wrote:
So it turns out that Richard Woods had written to the mailing list asking 
to be judge for TrumpX, after Mike said he'd do it, but before I actually 
assigned the judge. For whatever reason -- a combination of his @yahoo 
address, fx's mailing filter, and my spam filter, it seems -- his message 
did not get to me in time.

Richard is now very adamant that he be made judge for this claim instead 
of Mike, because I had offered it to him first.

I haven't heard of this ever being an issue, but it seems important to 
Richard. I have no reason to object, although it seems odd to me. Does 
anyone else have opinions on whether Mike should be replaced by Richard? 
Does Mike care? Ken, is it possible?


On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Sam Fentress <> 
Thank you, Mike, I've added you as the judge.


On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:18 PM, <> wrote:
If your original volunteer doesn't get back to you, I'm happy to fill in.

Mike 4309 

From:        Sam Fentress <> 
Date:        16/02/2017 01:56 
Subject:        Re: fx-propose: Proposal: 'TruImp' 
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Clearly things are heating up on this front, and we still have no claim to 

Does anyone volunteer to be a judge on this? 

In case it got lost in the ticker name change, the claim can be found at 

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Sam Fentress <> wrote: 

Thank you. 

Richard Woods, I think this meets many of your concerns from earlier. Are 
you still interested in judging? 


On Jan 28, 2017 2:27 PM, "Ken Kittlitz" <> wrote: 
OK, it should be done now. Let me know if anything appears amiss. 


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Sam Fentress <> wrote: 

Since no one has made a comment on that one way or another then yes, 

On Jan 27, 2017 5:24 PM, "Ken Kittlitz" <> wrote: 
I can probably change it in the DB.  You'd like the symbol to be 'TrumpX'? 


On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Sam Fentress <> wrote: 

Also, how do I change the ticker symbol? Do I have to delete it and make a 
new claim? 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Sam Fentress <> wrote: 

Sorry, I dropped the ball on this. 

How about we keep the Resign option, but forget about trying to judge any 
reasoning behind it. So far, the only president who has resigned was about 
to be impeached anyway. 

How about: 


Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States, will either be 
impeached by the House of Representatives or will resign from office, 
before January 20, 2021. 

The claim may be judged early on formal resignation or on the adoption of 
a House Resolution constituting articles of impeachment; conviction by the 
Senate is not material to the claim. The claim may also be judged early on 
death, but should not be judged early if Trump vacates office for any 
other reason, in case he is reinstated before the judgement date. 

Thoughts? Richard, would you still be willing to judge? 


On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jim Gillogly <> wrote: 
I'm still fine with the TruImp proposal as it stands. Feel free to propose 
others or offer proposed improvements to this one. 

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 7:31 AM, chrisran.bma e-mail <> wrote: 
I seem to have killed this conversation. 
Not sure if it was my "Should we consider if buying yes coupons could be 
an actionable libel ? " 
Perhaps we should instead consider two claim: 
Trump wins second term and 
Trump is not president for at least 30 consecutive days of what would be 
expected to be his first term. 

          Jim Gillogly 

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