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Re: fx-propose: Proposal: 'TruImp'

Author: chrisran.bma e-mail
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In-Reply-To: Sam Fentress's post
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:47 am
Sam Fentress
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>"in both cases it would simply be false that Trump was impeached."

That is simple and easy to judge but doesn't seem appropriate to me. I think if
he resigns because it is clear he will otherwise be impeached then the claim
should be designed to be judged true in that situation. Resignation completely
unconnected with anything that might result in impeachment should lead to a
false judgement.

Not sure how this should be drafted though as it could possibly leave a fuzzy
areas between these e.g. where he says he is resigning for one thing but people
suspect impeachment would/might have followed if he didn't resign. Any
resignation is likely to cause some conspiracy theory nonsense that there was a
different reason for the resignation so might need to be restricted to where
there is something like 'widespread agreement' that impeachment was likely if he
didn't resign.

So I am thinking of something like:

Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States, will be impeached by the
House of Representatives before January 20, 2021 or resigns in circumstances
where there is widespread agreement that if he didn't resign then impeachment
would be likely to follow.

"Impeached" means a House Resolution is adopted containing what constitutes
articles of impeachment; Senate conviction is not required.

Widespread agreement means a majority of well respected newspapers report in
terms implying that impeachment would be likely if Trump had not resigned.
Reporting there are some (fringe organisations/ people) who believe impeachment
would have occurred would not count as adequate.

The claim can be judged prior to the due date if either Trump ceases to be
president of the US and can not resume that position prior to the due date or
Trump has been impeached by the House of Representatives.

Chris Randles

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